The Legitimacy of Muslim protests about the film ‘Innocence of Muslims’ and the
freedom of speech are major issues facing the world today. I am pleased to
offer a summary of issues and pluralistic solutions. If you feel hatred towards
them, you are clearly justifying their hatred towards you. We all have to rise
above it and mitigate conflicts and nurture goodwill. That was the message of
Jesus, Muhammad (pbuh) and every spiritual master. We cannot have peace, unless
we contribute to it, we cannot have peace, if we aggravate it.
Thursday,
September 13, 2012 - Shows - The Sean Hannity Show Sean sat
down with Mike Ghouse and Brigitte Gabriel to talk about the ways the
United States can respond. “They do not deserve our money,” an angry Gabriel
... www.hannity.com/show/2012/09/13 How Should We Respond? In the wake of recent attacks to U.S. Officials in Libya, Sean spent some time this week talking about how we should respond. Sean sat down with Mike Ghouse and Brigitte Gabriel to talk about the ways the United States can respond. “They do not deserve our money,” an angry Gabriel offered, “They do not deserve our money and they do not deserve our support and it’s time for our president to stand up to a bunch of thugs who are attacking us like this.”
Ghouse took a slightly more forgiving stance saying, “I condemn what has happened in Libya, killing our ambassador is not acceptable, if you look at our own democracy though, it took many years to stabilize the democracy but it is in their blood right now.” Sean spent some time this afternoon on Twitter, flushing out details with Dana Perino about a potentially great new plan for the United States.
He wrote, Good Idea @DanaPerino - Sending the occupiers to go “talk” and “reason with the anti-American protesters in Egypt, Libya, etc. In all seriousness though, we should be looking to our leaders in Washington for answers and a plan, something that doesn't seem to be coming very quickly.
This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," September 12, 2012. This copy
may not be in its final form and may be updated. SEAN HANNITY, HOST: I think what is important to look at is
that the dramatic footage not only demonstrates that radicalism is still
prevalent in the Middle East, but it exposes a clear and present danger to
Americans both here and abroad.
In other words, the war on terror is ongoing.
Look at these live pictures.
They are out of Cairo. Thousands of protesters are hitting the streets.
Let me bring in Middle East experts Michael Ghouse and Brigitte Gabriel. You
know, Michael, all throughout our argument that we have had as the Arab spring
was unfolding, you told me over and over again that things were going to work
out and democracy was going to emerge. I told you that the Muslim Brotherhood
was going to take over. They first got parliament and they said Israel is their
number one enemy.
Will you now agree with me that I was right and you were wrong on this
particular issue?
MIKE GHOUSE, AMERICAN TOGETHER FOUNDATION: Brother Sean, as
somebody called you today. I will agree with you on that particular, specific
issue, but I don't agree with other things. First of all, I want to extend my
prayers for the bereaved families and condemn what has happened in Libya,
killing our ambassador is not acceptable --
HANNITY: You told me the Muslim Brotherhood would be
moderated by the military. That's not true, Michael.
GHOUSE: Sean, if you look at our own democracy, it took many
years to stabilize the democracy. It will tame take some time. It is sad, it's
happening, but let's give them some time, Sean. Democracy is in their blood
right now --
HANNITY: Give them some time as they rip down our flag and
the radicals take over and put up an Al Qaeda flag. Michael wants me to give
them some time. GHOUSE: No, Sean, let me -- Romney was wrong --
BRIGITTE GABRIEL, ACT FOR AMERICA PRESIDENT: We are not
going to waste any more time! We are casting our pearls at the feet of swine at
this time. They do not deserve our money. They do not deserve our support. It's
about time our president stands up as a man and stands up to a bunch of thugs
destroying our reputation and attacking us like this! This is the home of the
brave, not the land of cowards. And we need a president who is a brave man to
stand up against our enemy and stop squandering our money on people who don't
deserve it!
We gave them enough time. Now it's time to act. I urge everyone watching this
interview to go to actforamerica.org and get involved in taking back our nation
and putting America's head back up high and speaking as the land of the brave!
It's about time to act.
HANNITY: Brigitte, maybe the president should have showed up
at a few of his intelligence -- daily intelligence briefings, which liberals
made such a big deal about when George Bush was in the White House, which George
Bush actually attended on a daily basis.
Maybe -- he can identify them as radical Islamists, which they are. That
seems to be missing in Fort Hood -- that's the common theme this. This president
will not say the word radical terrorist. He will not say war on terror. It seems
to me that is pathetically weak.
GABRIEL: Sean, it is pathetically weak. Sean, we found out
the Egyptian intelligence knew September 4 that there will be attacks against
the United States Embassy. If the Egyptian intelligence knew that, how come our
president did not know it? Did he miss the briefing when they informed him about
the embassy going to be attacked?
This is not news. This is not new. We knew the embassies are going to be
attacked. How come our government is putting our people's lives in danger,
overseas in a country where we know they are not protecting our people?
This is why it's the job of the president and the job of the people to hold
him accountable to say that we are facing an enemy that is radical Islamist and
the flag they raised up is not an Al Qaeda flag. It's an Islamic flag that was
invented in the 800s, the most authentic symbol of Islam that only Al Qaeda and
the radical Islamist are now bringing back and reviving to attack the western
United States.
HANNITY: All right, I appreciate you both being with us. I
wish I was wrong when the Arab Spring was happening. We've predicted the Muslim
Brotherhood would be in charge. We predicted a lot of this would happen. Most of
the mainstream media, the president, they all ignored what was obvious to those
of us who had eyes to see.
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DALLAS
(CBSDFW.COM) – Protests in
Egypt and Libya may not have been tied to a controversial movie after all. U.S.
intelligence officials think they may have been planned for some time,
especially the attack in Libya that took the life of the U.S. ambassador
there.
How
should Americans sort through all of this to decide what it means? We asked for
guidance from the political science department at U-T Arlington. Associate
Professor Brent Sasley suggests we understand that America doesn’t have the
influence there it once had.
“In
some ways it’s not surprising,” Sasley says of the attacks. “You should take
that America’s moment in the Middle East is changing. That things are never
going to be the same.”
He
believes incidents like this on a smaller scale have been brewing a long time,
especially among the Salafist sect of ultra-conservative Muslims. “And we’ve had
signs that this kind of widepread dissatisfaction has been there for this whole
time.”
He
agrees with U-S officials, that while the Egyptian protest may have used the
film to justify a pre-planned protest, the killings in Libya were much more
sinister and that al-Qaede may have played a role.
According
to Sasley, “It looks like new evidence is coming out that the protests and riots
in Libya are not due to the video and the movie, but that the movie was used as
a cover. These protests were pre-planned, and there may even have been a
pre-planned attack on the consulate.”
Meantime
Mike Ghouse, local spokesman of the World Muslim Congress think tank, cautions
not to condemn the Muslim faith, which he claims is being misused by 1% of its
followers. “Right now, the 1% in Islam are very loud, very vociferous, very
violent; it is a shameful thing,” according to Ghouse.
He
condemns the killings and wants the attackers brought to justice, pointing to a
verse in the Koran which says killing one person is like killing the whole of
humanity.
“But
what these criminals do is wrong. And we, as a society need to not buy their
argument that, ‘I’m doing it for Allah, I’m doing it for Mohammad,’ No! They’re
not doing it for them, they’re getting their frustration out and using this
excuse. We shouldn’t buy that, we should say, ‘You are a damn criminal.’”
A
Muslim himself, he believes even some religious leaders have it all wrong.
“There are idiots out there calling themselves Imams that are issuing
Fatwahs…they’re wrong, dead wrong. Read to me…where do you find this violence in
the Koran? If it is not in the Koran, where are you coming from?”
Ghouse
makes this charge to anyone using his holy book to promote violence. “You can
use any excuse but that is not what your religion teaches; show me in the Koran
that it tells me you can do what you’re doing. If we take that approach we can
find many solutions.” http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/09/12/north-texas-reaction-to-deadly-libyan-protests/
In behalf of the World Muslim Congress, a think tank and a discussion forum, Mike Ghouse condemned the killing of our Ambassador Christopher Stevens in Ben Ghazi, Libya, Mr. Ghouse said,”This is not acceptable and the criminals must be hunted down and punished”. He also said that the violence that has erupted from the trailer of the film Mohammad is abhorrent and condemned by Muslims without a reserve.
As a society we can view these incidents from two different perspectives, and consider two different solutions.
Ambassador Christopher Stevens
Blaming Islam is the useless things to do, Islam did not authorize them do the wrong they have done. They have done it on their own. Each one of the 312 Million Americans follows the same criminals laws, 99% of us obey them, where 1% don’t. We don’t’ blame our laws for those that don't abide by them; we blame the bad guys and incarcerate them.
The bad guys went crazy upon the trailer of the film Mohammad Did Prophet Muhammad authorize what they did? Did Quraan authorize what they did? Absolutely not, on the contrary Quraan is absolutely clear - if someone insults you, don’t carry on the conversations with them and adds, if you insult others, they will insult you.
The criminals are always good in blaming someone else, in this case Islam. We should not be gullible enough to buy their argument and start barking at religion instead of the criminals.
Quraan is absolutely clear - Killing one person is like killing the whole humanity, and saving one life is like saving the whole humanity. Neither Islam, nor Allah, nor Quraan authorized these rogues to do what they have done. We need to get them and not others. Why should a religion be responsible for your bad acts? Quraan 5:32 "Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
Prophet Muhammad had said, “if you are unjust to a fellow being, a non-Muslim, by God on the Day of Judgment, I will stand against your and stand up with the victim.” That was a strong warning that these criminals did not heed. Quraan 5:8, "O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm for Allah , witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is Acquainted with what you do. (al-Ma'edah 5:8)"
The bully in us wants to bomb and annihilate the whole country of Libya. We probably can do that, but remember two outcomes from it - i) Our violence generates more violence, and will make us vulnerable wherever we go. That is not the kind of life we want. We are a free people and must preserve our freedom through wisdom, or the destruction of others will destroy us and our economy as we are living it now.
Freedom of speech and expression is the most sacred value of civilizations, and at no cost we need to compromise on them. What the dumb men did not realize is that they are actually promoting the movie by their violence. Had they chosen to follow the guidance of Quraan, to walk away from it, none of this would have happened. The evil things we do are not Christian, Jewish, Islamic or Hindu, they are our own mistakes, and we are responsible for it individually.
If they cannot fire the missiles at Gaddaffi, then they should not fire at all. The target should be Gaddaffi and nothing but him. Reagan missile nearly missed him; Obama missile shouldn't.
The administration needs to demand accurate information from the intelligence agencies; their record has not been great with false information on Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt and Libya. Even on the day Mubarak resigned, they did not get it right. And we should not make destructive decisions based on their information. We need to guard ourselves from letting a few sadistic men from the coalition to make Libya a play ground for their devious joys.There should not be any room for collateral damage, our goal must be specific; to get Gaddafi and resist the temptation to pull the trigger on everything that moves.
Any protracted involvement will bring untold misery to us, we cannot handle budget deficits any more; we cannot hurt our own families at home. However, if we are smart, we can buy some game machines at hundredths of the cost of this onslaught and give it to these sadistic men to play and get their hate out, rather than destroy the people of Libya.
The pleasure of today's destruction is not worth the misery of tomorrow. We need to consider the opinions of the moderates along with the right and the left to have sustainable policies. Obama knows better, had we listened to him and not gone for the war, we would not have been in the shape. # #
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If we cannot aim the target we should not fire.
110 missiles is nothing but sadistic behavior, men itching to show off their machoness.
Shameless war mongers use the term collateral damage
Obama needs to listen to himself, had we listened to him in 2003, we would not have seen the miseries afflicting an average American today, the rich ones will always be fine but not the majority of Americans.
Is our media going to ask tough questions?
Shirking our responsibility of not speaking out against the previous commander chief was a bad thing, we demand our government to be accurate and be accountable
A warning and three missiles at his location would have been enough, if the CIA cannot give that location then none of the information they provide is reliable.
After the initial attack, we should have given another notice to stop massacring his people.
110 missiles is nothing but sadistic behavior, men itching to show off and the loosely using the term collateral damage.
CIA and Mossad are useless agencies, when have they been right?
POTUS need to be told to stop before he entangles us into a protracted war.
Aljazeera can deliver what CIA cannot.
For the 1000th of the cost, Gaddaffi can be got, or an accurate missile can get him.
You, me and ever American has the responsibility for the wellbeing of America and what is good for America has got to be good for the world and vice versa to have sustainable peace
Mike Ghouse is committed to building cohesive societies and offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day.
Gaddafi and his Son will be gone, a new haven for dictators: Saudi Arabia.
First he blamed the west and now blames Al-Qaeda, as if Libyans are going to fall flat on the ground and believe him that it was the Al-Qaeda. Who is he fooling? Does the man know no one believes him?
The Prime Minister of Iraq is telling the protestors that they are being fingered by the Al-Qaeda.
Of course Al-Qaeda deserves to be raped by two more losers and liars; the CIA and Mossad. Have they been right any time from 1979 to 2011?
People can take the crap to a point. Thank God, all the uprisings have been non-violent and thank God Al-Jazeera is showing the truth as it is happening preventing the Media chefs from cooking up things.
This is all good for the people, the region and the world which includes us. Lets support the people movement, after the initial turmoil everything will come together, we must resist the temptation to believe that they cannot handle their affairs; every human and every nation is capable of managing their affairs when each person is free to choose and free to think.
This is the 4th time in less than a month that Nick and I have similar words. I wrote the following to him on February 25, and look what he writes on Feb 26th.
Lets support the people movement, after the initial turmoil everything will come together, we must resist the temptation to believe that they cannot handle their affairs; every human and every nation is capable of managing their affairs when each person is free to choose and free to think.
When I went on Fox’s Sean Hannity Show last week, we were to talk about Gaddafi’s call to Muslims to rise against the White people, here were my talking points.
Gaddaffi knew he has got a few days left, and as usual he wanted to fool the Muslims across the world to rise up by manufacturing an enemy that was not there. Who was he fooling? All the damned dictators and fascist live in a shielded bunker, their cohorts keep giving them false advise that they are in control, as if they are God eternal.
Gaddafi is deflecting the issue to take the pressure off, he is delusional.If the SOB thinks he can get away from shooting his people, he is in for a treat; he will have to disgracefully run from his country. He simply needs to announce that he will bring genuine democracy where ever a Libyan has a choice to support who she or he wants to support freely. Qur’aan adds, there is no compulsion in the matters of faith, in this case faith in those who can provide them just governance.
There are 12 nations that carry an Islamic label and are about to fall, one after the other from the hands of corrupt men in to the hands of people and through non-violence, civil disobedience and other peaceful means. The Right wingers have highlighted the actions of the few and push Muslims into a cage they did not belong. Muslims are freeing themselves from such imposed cages.
No doubt there will be chaos, but people can handle their own affairs well and out of chaos will emerge a fledgling governance of the people by the people for the people.It is sheer arrogance to believe that they cannot, they said the same thing about India, Indonesia and several other nations.
It is a testing time for the right wingers in America, UK and Israel to open up and show if they really want democracies around or were they simply faking it and misleading the public through the American TV networks. The same goes to the monarchs and dictators.
I wish the Mossad and CIA were reliable intelligence agencies; they have cooked up and lied to please the bosses and the public. It gave me hopes that even Sean Hannity saw acknowledged that in one of our interviews.
Have they come with anything reliable from Iran to Afghanistan to Iraq and Egypt? They will be wrong again on the other nations and eventually on Pakistan. People can take only so much shit; they will revolt and those of us in America need to stand firmly and prepare the right-wingers to support the people movements; else, we are going to lose many of those nations to Russia or Iran. Militarily, we cannot fight in every nook and corner and go through another budget deficit and ruin our own country in attempting to ruin others. Our own interests should be a priority.
As a Muslim, I am thrilled to see an end to dictatorships and theocracies. Here is a challenge for Muslims; Prophet Muhammad did not have an Islamic Government during his time, it was more like pluralistic governance where the Jews, Christians and others were signatories to the Madinah pact, he has repeatedly said and demonstrated to treat all the people of the book (meaning following written guidelines) with respect and the Qur’aan says whether you are a Jew, Christian or other God will. We need to find the original document where the prophet may have signed it as Muhammad bin Abdullah as opposed to Muhammad Rasool Allah, as he had done in another peace treaty with Meccans.
Mike Ghouse is a thinker, writer, speaker, futurist and an activist of Pluralism, Interfaith, Co-existence, Peace and Islam. He is a frequent guest at the TV, radio and print media offering pluralistic solutions on issues of the day. His work is reflected at three websites and 21 Blogs listed at http://www.mikeghouse.net/
