How Can You Say It’s Not Islamic?’ Megyn Takes on Muslim Speaker Over Violence By Radical Islamists

Mike Ghouse and Brigitte Gabriel with Megyn Kelly of Fox News
9:45 PM EST | September 26, 2014

Video 7:01 Minutes

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/09/26/%E2%80%98how-can-you-say-it%E2%80%99s-not-islamic%E2%80%99-megyn-kelly-takes-muslim-speaker-mike-ghouse-over

Megyn Kelly tonight took on Muslim speaker Mike Ghouse over radical Islam in the wake of the Oklahoma beheading.

“Islam stands for peace,” CAIR said in a statement, stressing that the Oklahoma beheading “is not a representation of what our faith teaches.”

“Islam does not stand for peace. The word Islam in Arabic means submission,” Brigitte Gabriel, president of Act! for America, said on “The Kelly File,” charging CAIR with trying to deceive the public.

Ghouse, founder of World Muslim Congress, said that Islam does not teach violence, but that some Muslims do.

Gabriel refuted that, saying that beheadings are strictly Islamic and are happening across the world by radicalized Muslims who are trying to emulate the prophet Muhammad.
Kelly pressed Ghouse, asking, “How can you say it’s not Islamic […] Is it just pure coincidence?”

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My points in random order:

First of all my heart goes out the to the victims family and I pray for them.

You cannot call New Yorkers rapists because over 1000 rapes took place last year.

3 Million Americans are incarcerated while 315 Americans are law abiding citizens.  You cannot call the flaw is in American Laws or our constitution, the problem is with the individuals. 

The radicals are part of us, part of Islam and we have to deal with them for misinterpreting the religion to suit their roughness. 

Brigitte went on with her rant about Prophet Muhammad ordering murdering 700 of Banu Quraiza Jews, I had a choice to counter, or not let her derail the topic. I asked Megyn if I should address that as it is pure malignant misinformation,  instead Megan asked me to focus on her questions. As long as the public hears it and do their research to find the truth, I am fine with it.

Brigitte passes on full of misinformation, and I believe the hard core followers believe her, not matter what the facts are, but there is intelligence out there that questions that rhetoric, and finds the truth on their own. My goal is to refute it in the given 5 to 7 seconds and keep up with the theme. 

I have made policy not to go off tangent or get drawn into other arguments, and I usually stick to answer the questions. In the long run that is the right thing to do.

Thanks to Nadia Q for searching the following information
Great article with good points

http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2014/09/is_it_safe_to_fire_anyone_anym.html

Three murders in Birmingham by a terminated employee, one at Hoover Hotel, two at a UPS customer service center

  Thanks to Brigitte Gabrielle’s tweets, it’s multiplying on the net
Reading Material

Go ahead and Destroy ISIS http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/president-obama-go-ahead-_b_5765264.html#es_share_ended

Two Islams - Mangled up and Pristine - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/two-islams-the-mangledup-_b_5748280.html

Muslims to pray for Christians http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/muslims-to-dedicate-frida_b_5679118.html

Muslim Agenda - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/american-muslim-agenda-a-_b_5528706.html
Full 7 minutes video at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt6693aWOZU
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Mike Ghouse is a public speaker, thinker, writer and a commentator on Pluralism at work place, politics, religion, society, gender, race, culture, ethnicity, food and foreign policy. All about him is listed in several links at www.MikeGhouse.net and his writings are at www.TheGhousediary.com and 10 other blogs. He is committed to building cohesive societies and offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day. 

Hannity Radio - a conversation with Sean Hannity and Brigitte Gabriel about ISIS

Mike Ghouse
www.TheGhouseDiary.com

Conversation with Sean Hannity and Brigitte Gabrielle on Hannity Radio today,  it will be aired at 5:00 PM CST on WBAP Radio in Dallas, and over 250 stations across the US. To find your local radio station, please visit http://www.hannity.com/pages/find-a-station/

The critical point I made without interruption and challenge is as follows; 

She Quoted a Verse from Qur'an, and said the reason Saudi Arabia is not questioning ISIS is because it would amount to criticizing the prophet who did the same thing as the ISIS guys.
 

I said first of all it was wrong, Prophet did not authorize any one to kill unless it is in self-defense, and added that Saudi and every Muslim nation has condemned their acts. She added that  Al-Azhar has not issued a Fatwa because of the same reason.

I urged her to read three verses before and three after the given verse, and not pluck a word, phrase and sentence to misrepresent the meaning.

And of course, I denounced the misinterpretations of the Islamic scholars from the past, that give legitimacy to crackpots like ISIS.  We have to stick with Qur'an, and my article: “Two Islams – a mangled up and the pristine one” should be published in the next few days that addresses the same issue. 

I shared the Qur'anic formula in dealing with the bad guys which are identical to American laws; i.e., if some one enters your home forcibly, you can chase them and if they don't leave and attack you instead, you can kill them without consequence,  that is your right.  Qur'an has the same formula consistently applied with almost every verse. 

1. Tell them not to attack you, if they continue, ask them to back off,
2. If they still attack you, repel them, and find wherever you can and Kill them
3. However if they retrieve, repent, and fold, stop the chase
4. Islam does not permit killing anyone unless it is in self-defense.

Of the millions of listeners, even if a few of our listeners understand this formula, a lot of misunderstandings will be removed. I hope this contributes towards getting people to finding facts and the truth on their own. Bad people do bad things and they are in every group, religion has nothing to do with it.

I also added that if there were an application process involved to approve an organization to be called Islamic or Muslim, ISIS’s application will be rejected out rightly.

Almost every Muslim nation and organization has condemned the ISIS rogues, and I have suggested to the President that give them the ultimatum to retrieve, surrender or face the drones. We need to get rid of the specific individual leaders then others will run.

Due to time constraints, I will end this note here instead of full conversation. If I get the time to post the recording of the show, I will add to this note.

Several references were made from my earlier article at Huffington post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/muslims-to-dedicate-frida_b_5679118.html

A few tweets before the show:

Brigitte Gabriel ?@act4america - I will be live on @seanhannity radio this afternoon at 5 pm ET. I'm on with @MikeGhouse we talk about #StevenSotloff http://bit.ly/1x71jAe

John ?@FuriousCStyles - Now Sean will have to slow things down. Had to use the "dump button" & reset delay. @MikeGhouse calm down!! #LNYHBT

feather777 and 11 others favorited a Tweet you were mentioned in I will be live on @seanhannity radio this afternoon at 5 pm ET. I'm on with @MikeGhouse we talk about #StevenSotloff http://bit.ly/1x71jAe

CJ Aulbach and 14 others retweeted a Tweet you were mentioned in
I will be live on @seanhannity radio this afternoon at 5 pm ET. I'm on with @MikeGhouse we talk about #StevenSotloff http://bit.ly/1x71jAe

Brigitte Gabriel ?@act4america - I will be live on @seanhannity radio this afternoon at 5 pm ET. I'm on with @MikeGhouse we talk about #StevenSotloff http://bit.ly/1x71jAe

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Mike Ghouse is a public speaker, thinker, writer and a commentator on Pluralism at work place, politics, religion, society, gender, race, culture, ethnicity, food and foreign policy. All about him is listed in several links at www.MikeGhouse.net and his writings are at www.TheGhousediary.com and 10 other blogs. He is committed to building cohesive societies and offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day.

You're Dangerous!': Sparks Fly Between 'Hannity' Panel on Radical Islam

URL - http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2014/06/youre-dangerous-sparks-fly-between.html


Published at Oped News: http://www.opednews.com/articles/A-response-to-Sean-Hannity-by-Mike-Ghouse-American-Muslims_Anti-islam_Extremism-Extremists_Foreign-Policy-Failure-Iraq-140624-879.html#comment496854

YOUTUBE:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrilgYRauZY

First let me address the myth about Sean Hannity, and application of the Quranic verse “Don’t let your bias make you unjust towards the other” in this situation. Hannity is a defender of freedom and you would appreciate him, when you grasp the full meaning of freedom in its entirety.

In February 2013, Sean had called in 25 individuals for his show that included Representatives Peter King, Louis Goehmert, Ambassador John Bolton and others including me, Mike Ghouse.

In the middle of taping another segment, Sean asked me to join him on the stage, while 23 others were sitting across on the bleachers.  To paraphrase him (short version), "You are the only Muslim friend I know... and today I will do something for you that you have been asking for in the last three years....  from now on I will not use the word "Muslim terrorists" and instead call it  Terrorists among Muslims, would that make you happy? Hell yes!  I gave him a big salute while others cheered on.

Boston Marathon bombing followed in April, CNN camera goes to Peter King, and this is what he said, "96% of Muslims are good people, and it is the 4% we have to worry... That is a 180 Degrees turnaround! The same man had called in to investigate every Muslim and every Mosque a year ago.  That is reasonable change!  Thank you Sean!

Muslims don’t have to love him, but should not hold any bias against him.  I am glad that topic came up today, though we did not elaborate, we touched up on it and here I am, writing about it.  Just wanted to add, that CAIR team was vehemently opposed to my presence on Hannity and we had some fiery words about it, and finally Ibrahim Hooper had apologized to me.   I have defended the need for CAIR, just as there are Jewish, Sikh, Hindu and others have their own CAIRS defending the Civil rights of the respective groups. I will continue to do that despite their attitudes towards me.  They simply do not understand the power of engagement.

Personally, it is a mission accomplished - we place the blame where it belongs; the individuals and not religion.   We (Muslims) cry out loud to "see the change" and it won't happen unless we engage with people who differ with us.  Mother Teresa had once said, if you want to make peace, go talk with your enemies, indeed Mother, you are right!  Gandhi had said, if you want a change, be a part of it.  Both are my mentors.

Listen to Hannity carefully, he is not against Islam or Muslims, but against the radicals among us, which all of us Muslims (minus radicals) are against but don’t speak up in strong terms on a national or international microphone.

I would venture to say that,   even the stance taken by  Brigitte Gabriel, Pamela Geller and others is not against Muslims, though their language is not palatable,  they are activists and are outraged by lack of demonstrations by Muslims against the radicals, even though they have their own agenda. Unless I find information otherwise, I stand with my take.

The radicals among us are frightening not only to Muslims but to everyone else.  I would go on to say that even Jamie Glazov’s bias against Islam is not deep rooted, but stems from reading the wrong translations of Quran, and shamefully, beefed by the false assertions of radical Muslim scholars in the past which do not contribute to peaceful societies.   As Muslims we have to fix the wrongs of Sharia Law and understand the Genesis of Sharia law to rebuild cohesive societies where no human has to live in fear of the other. 


I would rather have many Hannity's in the world who keep every one on their toes than have sycophants who let the governments and groups become complacent and make mistakes to the detriment of the very public they serve.

This will be my 90th show with Hannity over a period of four years. Please remember, I am from Texas, and slow in responding to the fast pace of Hannity, but yet, I have always made a few points, and with humility I acknowledge that I was a disaster a few times and Hannity had beat me up,  partly due to technical difficulties in the studios and partly my slowness. I will do well face to face with Hannity than via Satellite, where I don't see any one of them but looking into the camera with no one to see, and when I don't see them, I don't get the cue.

I am getting a lot of hate mail since yesterday, and several of them have attacked me on Twitter and their own sites. "I hate this @MikeGhouse ....... @.... ! He spikes my blood pressure! Makes me clean and oil my Rifle! It is a Norinco SKS." I feel sorry for them for not having the stomach for a different point of view.

Some others have jumped about my support (or lack of denouncement) of ISNA, as if that is the only problem they have, in which case it is not bad. Their charge is based on accusations of co-conspirators, which is not true, as it has been cleared by the courts. ISNA is a good clean organization. However, I do have a gripe with ISNA's priorities. Twice, I have submitted proposals to give presentations in their annual conference - "How to become a Mayor", "how to be participants and contributors towards the well being of America", that ultimately benefits all of us, and "what does it take for us to change", but it gets run down by their bureaucracy. I understand their priorities are different, but I would place my priority on what Prophet Muhammad taught, the very foundation of Islam; to be the Amins (the Jews, Christians, Pagan and other neighbors called him "Amin" for his truthfulness, kindness, caring and justness)  of the society where he built relations with every one around him, that is how we build cohesive societies that function effectively, indeed that is the purpose of religion, all religions.  Religion should not be barrier to be friends with neighbors.  God emphasizes in the Quran (at least 18 verses) with a tag line - the best among you is the one who cares for my creation, and I know who cared for his neighbors.

I will  however present a national proposal, hopefully in Huffington Post before Ramadan about what we can do, or if Sean wants to do it on his show, I will present the proposal.  I hope they listen, if not, we have to get the grass root movement to pick it up the steam and go on with or without the support of National Muslim organizations. We have to be engaged, and we have to become major contributors towards the safety, security and prosperity of America, we have to do more than our share to be equals.

And now about the sparks

In a live TV show, you don’t get a second chance to say a few words you really wanted to say, and take back a few words you did not want them in.  All of us could have done better, but the idea is to express different points of view, and it is up to the public to choose what they will do with the information.

 Here are a few phrases, rather paraphrases that got everyone going.  “She (Brigitte Gabrielle) is as dangerous as the extremist”, “you (Jamie Glazov) are disgusting” and “You (inference) are an Islamist” and several more….

Tamara Holder said Brigitte Gabrielle is as dangerous as the extremists.  I can fully understand her take, and I have said a very similar thing to Brigitte a few months ago, “Your ‘statements’ are dangerous and are a come-on to those terrorist” while our men and women are serving in the conflict zones we should not be goading them. It negates the safety efforts of our administration.

It resonates with what I have been writing frequently, “For every Muslim ass, there is a Christian, Jewish, Hindu or a Buddhist ass, just as those men at ISIS and Al-Qaida will declare Jihad against us Americans; we have some among us who would want to do the same. It is a serious issue, but to hype it up to the Nth degree does not bode well for the safety of fellow Americans.  I stand opposed to any pre-emptive strikes or going to war.

Jamie Glazov does not realize that hate is the mother of violence. He attacked Islam instead of the radicals and that got me going. Tamara called him disgusting and I would reiterate that his statements were disgusting. What do I wish?
I would wish that he can take out his anti-Islam bias, as it creates animosities, unfortunately if he is joined by others, we Americans sound like hateful people, and we are not. Do his statements contribute towards building bridges? Hell no!   

Blaming the religion is dumb

I want to assert a thought that very few on the right have had a chance to learn.  Religions and civil societies evolved to build cohesive societies where all the members of the society can function effectively and without fear of each other. Whether it is Zoroaster, Moses, Krishna, Buddha, Confucius, Jesus, Muhammad, Nanak or any of the peace makers, their messages was same, most people get that right, and a few don't.

 Justice is the key component of a society.  When an individual commits a crime or violates others' rights, both the civil and religious societies have prescribed punishment for him, with a hope that the punishment will act as a deterrent to others. Furthermore, you don't punish the man's parents, siblings, spouse and kids, nor do you punish the man's clergy, Mayor of the town, the people of the town, his nation, his religion or people who follow his religion.

Some men do not understand a thing about religion, they may have studied the same wrong thing over and over again,  and that does not make them an expert, if their language generates fear and hate for the other.  

The reason you blame and punish the individual is to restore trust, harmony and justice.  You don't blame the religion, and don't buy the alibis of the criminals. The guy may say Allahu Akbar and kill someone, but that does not mean you have to buy that as an act of religion.  Glazov hangs on to the statements made by some radical Muslims scholars from the past ignoring what Quran says.

Blaming Islam does no good.  You cannot beat, kill, hang, slaughter, shoot or bury religion - it amounts to barking at the wrong tree, it does not produce any result. But punishing the bad guys restores justice and trust in the society, after all religion in an intangible thing and cannot do a thing but provide guidance.  

Can you call Pamela Geller a murderer, and Bill Blasio a rapist?  Because New Yorkers murdered over 1500 people, and raped over 3000 women last year? It would be dumb isn't it? Blaming Islam or Muslims for the acts of the few is equally dumb.

Caliphate is another conspiracy theory.  First of all, no two Muslims agree on anything. No doubt Islam is one, but its understanding is as different as Christ in different denominations.  There never will be a Caliphate, it is an useless dream of few on the Muslims side and conspiracy of a few on part of non-Muslims.  The Saudi version of Islam, the brotherhood, Taliban and other versions have zero tolerance for each other and the average Muslim who minds his own life taking care of his family and living his own life.  The division within Sunni is steep, let alone the animosity between Sunnis and Shias. The Caliphate is the imaginary product of conspirators.

What we all need to do is talk with each other, lay things out as bluntly as we can and then examine how we can build cohesive societies, where no one has to live in apprehension or fear of the other.  We need to highlight the dimension of pluralism, and we want the world to respect us for our justice, honesty and fairness.

God bless America!

OTHER VIDEOS

http://mediamatters.org/mobile/blog/2014/06/21/how-fox-news-has-a-conversation-about-islam/199830

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/06/20/hannity-sneak-preview-radical-muslims-march

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/06/20/sparks-fly-between-hannity-panel-radical-islam

http://counterjihadreport.com/2014/06/22/youre-dangerous-sparks-fly-between-hannity-panel-on-radical-islam/

Jamie Glazov vs. Michael Ghouse on the Roots of Jihad — on Hannity

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/frontpagemag-com/jamie-glazov-vs-michael-ghouse-on-the-roots-of-jihad-on-hannity/

tamaraholder Says Brigitte Gabriel Is Dangerous About Islamhttp://themadjewess.com/2014/06/22/tamaraholder-says-brigitte-gabriel-is-dangerous-about-islam/

Michael Ghouse | The Counter Jihad Report
 http://counterjihadreport.com/tag/michael-ghouse/

Islamophobia & Media – Linda Sarsour vs. Brigitte Gabriel
http://religionresearch.org/martijn/2014/06/23/islamophobia-media-linda-sarsour-vs-brigitte-gabriel/ 

http://mikeghouse.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/ghouse-responds-to-hannitys-show-on-radical-islam/

VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS: Pamela Geller on Hannity Show “Radical Muslims on the March” - 
http://pamelageller.com/2014/06/video-highlights-pamela-geller-hannity-show-radical-muslims-march.html/
 

Fox's Tamara Holder Blasts Brigitte Gabriel For Spewing Anti-Muslim Hatred
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/06/foxs-tamara-holder-blasts-brigitte-gabriel

How Fox News Has A Conversation About Islam
http://shredoftruth.com/home/how-fox-news-has-a-conversation-about-islam.html

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Mike Ghouse is a speaker, thinker and a writer on pluralism, politics, peace, Islam, Israel, India, interfaith, and cohesion at work place. He is committed to building a Cohesive America and offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day at www.TheGhousediary.com. He believes in Standing up for others and a book with the same title is coming up. Mike has a strong presence on national and local TV, Radio and Print Media. He is a frequent guest on Sean Hannity show on Fox TV, and a commentator on national radio networks, he contributes weekly to the Texas Faith Column at Dallas Morning News; fortnightly at Huffington post; and several other periodicals across the world. His personal site www.MikeGhouse.net indexes all his work through many links.

Fox News : Missing Malaysian Plane and Terrorism angle on Sean Hannity show with Brigitte Gabrielle and Mike Ghouse

Missing Malaysian Airlines flight: Was it terrorism?

Published March 12, 2014 | Hannity | Sean Hannity

With: Brigitte Gabriel, Mike Ghouse
Video: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2014/03/13/missing-malaysian-airlines-flight-was-it-terrorism

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," March 12, 2014. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
SEAN HANNITY, HOST:  And this is a Fox News Alert. A Chinese government agency is reporting tonight that it has satellite images of suspected debris from the missing Malaysian Airlines plane. Meanwhile, authorities are still not ruling out the possibility that terrorism played a role in the disappearance of the airliner. Remember, this happened on Saturday.

Joining me now to talk more about the tragic possibility are Act for America president Brigitte Gabriel and the president of the America Together Foundation, Mike Ghouse.

Mike, look, we live in a post-9/11 world. Does your first thought go towards terrorism? I have -- I am unapologetic in saying that's where my thoughts go to.

MIKE GHOUSE, AMERICA TOGETHER FOUNDATION: Well, you're absolutely right. That was my thought and the thought of many Muslims. Praying God, I wish it is not terrorism. And you're right, Sean, that goes out.

But first of all, my prayer to the victims of the 293rd (ph) people who died. And also, I want to condemn the cavalier attitude of the aviation minister of Malaysia. The guy said...

HANNITY: Oh, they've been awful.

GHOUSE: ... the Chinese -- Chinese (INAUDIBLE) to nothing. And I was very upset with that.

HANNITY: All right, Brigitte, I mean, this is the world we live in. And it seems, you know, in a post-9/11 world, it would be foolish not to suspect right out of hand that this could be an incident of terrorism, right?

BRIGITTE GABRIEL, ACT FOR AMERICA PRESIDENT: Exactly. And I believe, Sean, that both the Chinese and the Malaysians believed immediately that it had something to do with terrorism.

Listen, the Taiwan national security bureau already warned China that there going to be a terrorist attack against the Beijing airport and the subways just few days before this disappearance of this airline.

Also, China has been on high alert regarding terrorism, especially after the first of the month, March 1st, where there was a terrorist attack in a train station, where 29 people were killed and 140 injured.

The Chinese government suspects it is a group called the East Turkistan Islamic Movement, which is a separatist movement in China trying to declare independence from China. They are also known as ethnic Uighurs. As you may remember, Sean, we had three of them in Gitmo arrested because they were fighting with Al Qaeda that we -- China did not want them back. We ended up sending them to Bermuda, where we settled them three years ago.

HANNITY: All right...

GABRIEL: So that's what the Chinese know, and that's what they are dealing with.

HANNITY: All right, Mike, your final thought?

GHOUSE: Well, I'm glad we were able to find the debris. What a relief to the families that at least they know they are dead. It did not disappear somewhere in the air. That is a big relief. And again, my prayers go out to the victims. And again, I condemn the Malaysian minister for taking that cavalier attitude. We should worry about every life. Every life is precious, and I hope we find out...

HANNITY: But the debris is the first -- the debris gives us the answer. Was this an act of terror, was it an accident of some kind?

All right, guys, thank you both for being with us. Appreciate it.

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TONITE ON FOX NEWS – SEAN HANNITY SHOW WITH GHOUSE & GARBRIELLE

TERRORISM FEARS FLY IN CHINA AS SEARCH FOR MISSING JET CONTINUES

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/03/10/China_MH370_terrorism_chatter

 MONITORING FOR NEWS: WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY JAY CARNEY BRIEFS AT 1PM ET

I hope to condemn their aviation minister who was reckless with his statement and discounted the passengers as mostly Chinese, as if their life means less. 

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Mike Ghouse is a speaker, thinker and a writer on pluralism, politics, peace, Islam, Israel, India, interfaith, and cohesion at work place. He is committed to building a Cohesive America and offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day at www.TheGhousediary.com. He believes in Standing up for others and a book with the same title is coming up. Mike has a strong presence on national and local TV, Radio and Print Media. He is a frequent guest on Sean Hannity show on Fox TV, and a commentator on national radio networks, he contributes weekly to the Texas Faith Column at Dallas Morning News; fortnightly at Huffington post; and several other periodicals across the world. His personal site www.MikeGhouse.net indexes all his work through many links.