Today, I am proud of America
more than I was in 2008; the Senate has confirmed the Gay, Black Judges to the
Supreme Court. Don’t you mis-read me, like some of you did
when FLOTUS said she was never been proud of America before. We both mean we
are proud of the additional significant milestone of the civilization led by
America.
Thank you Mr. President for fulfilling the dream of the founding fathers
of this nation, that all Men are created equal. All it took to bring
about the change of accepting the LGBT community as a normal part of the
society was your daring and bold utterance in September 2013 to support
LGTB marriages.
Everything gathered momentum from then on, and
even the African Americans who had opposed such unions in California
turned around, the Conservative Preachers did, and the Muslims joined in
too and this Muslims was in the forefront of inclusion of every
American.
And this day, much of the value placed in our constitution
comes true - that all men are created equal. It will be complete when
Hillary becomes the president and a Jewish Gay man become the
Vice President, a Muslim becomes the Secretary of State and a Hindu,
Atheist, and Native American become Secretaries of defense, Justice and
Home Land security respectively.
Then the 2nd biggest dream of MLK, judge
not by the color of skin gets enhanced with judge not by the faith,
ethnicity or size of the community one represents, but by one's
ability. I am proud of America today even more than in 2008 and each
successive day I see an inclusive America.
Mr. President, you made it. Thank you.
I particularly like this paragraph reported in Huffington Post, “The latest
confirmations come as the Senate has been plowing through President Barack Obama's nominees, and
they reflect the diversity that will remain on the federal judiciary long after
he is gone.
A White House aide said Obama
has appointed more female judges than any other president, breaking the record
previously set by President Bill Clinton. He has also appointed more Hispanic
judges than any other president, breaking the record previously held by
President George W. Bush. Obama has also appointed more Asian-American judges
than all presidents combined and has nominated 12 openly gay federal judges.
Last month, the Senate confirmed the first-ever Native American female federal judge in the
nation's history.”
Added:
PRECISELY ! I AM SO GLAD YOU SHARED YOUR THOUGHTS
THIS
CELEBRATION IS NOT ABOUT INCLUSION OF RACE AND LGBT, but about our
civilization reaching a new milestone, and achieving a new height where
we do not discriminate any. Just a year ago this was not possible,
thanks to Obama, he paved the way and today 98:0 Senate voted for it,
both Republicans and Democrats. It is going beyond politics, and is
about caring for America.
We should celebrate this indeed, we will reach the peak of our
civilization when a woman becomes our president, a Jewish person becomes
a VP, a Muslim becomes the Secy of State, a Native American becomes
secy of Home land and a Hindu becomes secy of defense... That is when we
become fully civilized nation and no more we will hear from our
conservative brothers and sisters (yes) that "A woman will become
president over my dead body."
Mike Ghouse committed to building a cohesive America, where every American feels included and no American fears the other.
http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2014/06/today-i-am-proud-of-america-more-than.html
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Tuesday, June 17, 2014
Monday, June 16, 2014
No Arms to Iraq, instead get them to talk.
NO ARMS TO IRAQ,
INSTEAD GET THEM TO TALK NOW
How naive can we be?
Do the bloody war mongers believe that
by supplying arms and parking our fleet in the gulf we will scare the ISIS?
Hell, we’ll egg them on, they got nothing to lose.
Obama has been right, and now he needs to go it alone, as he did all along by voting against Iraq War, pulling our troops and recovering America. Had we supported him then, we would have not witnessed the disaster.
No arms to Iraq and no troops, and let our efforts be spent in bringing them to sit down and talk. Isn’t worth it? Isn’t it better? Let’s not be arrogant saviors, they can take care of themselves.
No doubt talk is cheaper than war!
Indeed war is for thrill seekers.
Mike Ghouse, Americans Together
Mike Ghouse is a speaker, thinker and a
writer on pluralism, politics, peace, Islam, Israel, India, interfaith, and cohesion at work
place. He is committed to building a Cohesive America and offers
pluralistic solutions on issues of the day at www.TheGhousediary.com. He believes in
Standing up for others
and a book with the same title is coming up. Mike has a strong presence on
national and local TV, Radio and Print Media. He is a frequent guest on Sean Hannity show on
Fox TV, and a commentator on national radio networks, he contributes weekly to
the Texas Faith Column at Dallas
Morning News; fortnightly at Huffington post; and
several other periodicals across the world. His personal site www.MikeGhouse.net indexes all his work
through many links.
Sunday, June 15, 2014
Happy Fathers Day
HAPPY FATHER’S DAY
This morning, I dutifully I dedicated about half an hour to reflect on my father, and a few minutes to pray and express my gratitude to my late father, Abdul Rahman. I am blessed to have a great Dad, an affectionate and caring father who opened many windows of knowledge for me.
I live by many examples he left for us to emulate – honor your promises, what you appear is what you are. He was forgiving, always inclined to mitigate conflicts and nurture goodwill in my town I grew up – he did not have a barrier between him and another human being – he was a caring man. Rarely did I see him get angry and I thanks for passing on some those genes.
This morning, I dutifully I dedicated about half an hour to reflect on my father, and a few minutes to pray and express my gratitude to my late father, Abdul Rahman. I am blessed to have a great Dad, an affectionate and caring father who opened many windows of knowledge for me.
I live by many examples he left for us to emulate – honor your promises, what you appear is what you are. He was forgiving, always inclined to mitigate conflicts and nurture goodwill in my town I grew up – he did not have a barrier between him and another human being – he was a caring man. Rarely did I see him get angry and I thanks for passing on some those genes.
My 2nd duty of prayers was for my father figure Everett Blauvelt who passed away last year at 97. He opened to door for me to come to the United States. He was very caring and very sensitive – and of course we were friends more than the deferential relationships.
Both the men had great attitudes towards life and I am blessed to emulate them.
I have written several articles about these men, a few of
them are listed here.
1. http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2013/06/happy-fathers-day.html
1. http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2013/06/happy-fathers-day.html
4. http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2013/04/in-memory-of-dadski-everett-blauvelt.html
5. http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2013/04/praying-for-dadski-everett-blauvelt.html
5. http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2013/04/praying-for-dadski-everett-blauvelt.html
My heart goes out to those who did not have a good relationship with their father but, despite that they survived, and give that affection to their offspring and service to others.
Mike
Saturday, June 14, 2014
Decmocracy alive in Indian Parliament, thanks to Asaduddin Owaisi
INDIAN DEMOCRACY IS ALIVE - ASADUDDIN OWAISI
http://mikeghouseforindia.blogspot.com/2014/06/decmocracy-alive-in-indian-parliament.html
I have criticized Mr. Asaduddin Owaisi in the past and will continue to do so for his approach. However, given that there is no spineful opposition in our parliament, we need to admire him for being critical of the government and question them. We need to have men like MallikArjun Kharge and Asaduddin Owaisi to question and criticize, it is a sign of a healthy democracy. Shehzada and others will probably speak nothing and do nothing.
As Indians we need to mature, and appreciate the men and women who question the government. I would say, the most patriotic Indian would be the one who keeps the government on its toes, like my friend Sean Hannity. If we don't keep the government in the line, they will become what we hated before, and before.
Today at the parliament he spoke up loud and clear. Vajpayee had done it, Sushma had done it, and so they do at the US Congress and Senate or any democratic system. Even the shouting responses are democratic, as they do in the UK Parliament. At least chappals were not flying.
As people, we need to appreciate the men and women who criticize our governments. I am sure Modi will speak up about it, and I hope and pray that he values dissent - the foundation of democracy.
Mike Ghouse
www.MikeGhouse.net
http://mikeghouseforindia.blogspot.com/2014/06/decmocracy-alive-in-indian-parliament.html
I have criticized Mr. Asaduddin Owaisi in the past and will continue to do so for his approach. However, given that there is no spineful opposition in our parliament, we need to admire him for being critical of the government and question them. We need to have men like MallikArjun Kharge and Asaduddin Owaisi to question and criticize, it is a sign of a healthy democracy. Shehzada and others will probably speak nothing and do nothing.
As Indians we need to mature, and appreciate the men and women who question the government. I would say, the most patriotic Indian would be the one who keeps the government on its toes, like my friend Sean Hannity. If we don't keep the government in the line, they will become what we hated before, and before.
Today at the parliament he spoke up loud and clear. Vajpayee had done it, Sushma had done it, and so they do at the US Congress and Senate or any democratic system. Even the shouting responses are democratic, as they do in the UK Parliament. At least chappals were not flying.
As people, we need to appreciate the men and women who criticize our governments. I am sure Modi will speak up about it, and I hope and pray that he values dissent - the foundation of democracy.
Mike Ghouse
www.MikeGhouse.net
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Asaduddin Owaisi and Shanavas baffle BJP in Lok Sabha
The Milli Gazette Online
Published Online: Jun 12, 2014
YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kmbn_Xu4Go
NEW DELHI : Asaduddin Owaisi, President All India Majlis-E-Ittehadul
Muslimeen and M.P. from Hyderabad created uproar in Lok Sabha during his
address. He hit at BJP with his precise points. Even he sarcastically
congratulated Narendra Modi for destroying myth of Muslim vote bank, and
added that "in doing so you have proved there is a Hindu vote bank
which can be consolidated". Further he said:
"I stand here as the son of Ehsan Jafri...
"I stand here as the brother of Ishrat Jahan...
"I stand here as the Uncle of Mohsin Sadiq Sheikh..."I stand before you as the voice of those poor voiceless people affected by Gujarat genocide and I want justice to be done with them.
"I stand here as the brother of Ishrat Jahan...
"I stand here as the Uncle of Mohsin Sadiq Sheikh..."I stand before you as the voice of those poor voiceless people affected by Gujarat genocide and I want justice to be done with them.
Owaisi's remarks regards Babri Masjid and Gujarat riots evoked sharp
reaction from BJP members who were heard shouting "shame on you".
Unperturbed by the protest, Owaisi noted there are very few Muslim
representatives from BJP in the Lok Sabha. “Where is the inclusiveness?”
he asked and demanded that the Prime Minister make it clear what he
proposed to do for the minorities. He didn't spare Najma Heptullah for
claiming Muslims are not minorities.
Owaisi added that soon, this Parliament would nominate Gandhi's assassin Nathuram Godse for Bharat Ratna.
Congress MP from Wayanad M I Shanavas in his address said despite the
defeat, Congress would rise again. "Congress will never die. Congress
can die only with the nation... Whatever may be your victory, victory is
not all that matters. Hitler had won, Mussolini had won, Stalin had
won, victory will not make all the differences. I tell you in this
august House that the Indian National Congress will come back like a
storm in this House itself," he said.
http://www.milligazette.com/news/10567-asaduddin-owaisi-and-shanavas-baffle-bjp-in-lok-sabha
http://www.milligazette.com/news/10567-asaduddin-owaisi-and-shanavas-baffle-bjp-in-lok-sabha
Friday, June 13, 2014
Father's day gifts | Mothers are Fathers
FATHER'S DAY GIFT S | MOTHERS ARE FATHERS
URL - http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2014/06/fathers-day-gifts-mothers-are-fathers.html
Gone are the times when gifts were a surprise, coming are times where you list your gift choices on Amazon or some such site - to make it easy for the loved one's to order it. Whatever happened to "I know my father" and "know what he would enjoy"? The surprise factor is still good! There was a time, when my son and I had exchanged the exact same gift which we both cherished.
Let me not forget and be insensitive to those who do not have a father, abusive father or ashamed to be associated with one. I admire you for being who you are without a father or a father figure. All of us would find our own balance in one way or the other, that is the law of life, and I admire you for being who you are - a good giver, even though you may not have been a recipient of such love.
God willing, I will write a small article on father's day to appreciate my father M. Abdul Rahman and my father figure Everett A Blauvelt, who have showered tremendous affection and caring. I hope you would reflect on such blessed figures in your life - a sense of gratitude seeps in when expressed, and brings serenity in life.
To rekindle that beautiful connection, of knowing what your father would like and want, my friend Dr. Amer Suleman floated a great idea. When his kids asked him what he wants for Father's day, he said to them, "the greatest gift would be to speak to me in my language - Urdu; at least three sentences." Now the kids can surprise their fathers in their own language… it takes effort and thought process to figure out the surprise.
This is also a great idea to keep our Children's earth green.
MOTHERS ARE FATHERS
I admire all those mothers who have been a great father to their children, through a variety of life situations. My wife Yasmeen has been a good father besides a great mother to her daughter Maheen, and I know a whole lot of other mothers who have raised their children with a lot of caring and affection - they deserve a big appreciation on father's day
Share are your thoughts, together we can create a few good moments in our lives to cherish?
Share are your thoughts, together we can create a few good moments in our lives to cherish?
Mike Ghouse
www.MikeGhouse.net
URL - http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2014/06/fathers-day-gifts-mothers-are-fathers.html
Gone are the times when gifts were a surprise, coming are times where you list your gift choices on Amazon or some such site - to make it easy for the loved one's to order it. Whatever happened to "I know my father" and "know what he would enjoy"? The surprise factor is still good! There was a time, when my son and I had exchanged the exact same gift which we both cherished.
Let me not forget and be insensitive to those who do not have a father, abusive father or ashamed to be associated with one. I admire you for being who you are without a father or a father figure. All of us would find our own balance in one way or the other, that is the law of life, and I admire you for being who you are - a good giver, even though you may not have been a recipient of such love.
God willing, I will write a small article on father's day to appreciate my father M. Abdul Rahman and my father figure Everett A Blauvelt, who have showered tremendous affection and caring. I hope you would reflect on such blessed figures in your life - a sense of gratitude seeps in when expressed, and brings serenity in life.
To rekindle that beautiful connection, of knowing what your father would like and want, my friend Dr. Amer Suleman floated a great idea. When his kids asked him what he wants for Father's day, he said to them, "the greatest gift would be to speak to me in my language - Urdu; at least three sentences." Now the kids can surprise their fathers in their own language… it takes effort and thought process to figure out the surprise.
This is also a great idea to keep our Children's earth green.
MOTHERS ARE FATHERS
I admire all those mothers who have been a great father to their children, through a variety of life situations. My wife Yasmeen has been a good father besides a great mother to her daughter Maheen, and I know a whole lot of other mothers who have raised their children with a lot of caring and affection - they deserve a big appreciation on father's day
Share are your thoughts, together we can create a few good moments in our lives to cherish?
Share are your thoughts, together we can create a few good moments in our lives to cherish?
Mike Ghouse
www.MikeGhouse.net
Tuesday, June 10, 2014
Texas Faith: In love and marriage, do different faiths really matter in America?
DO INTERFAITH MARRIAGES MATTER?
URL - http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2014/06/texas-faith-in-love-and-marriage-do.html
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As a Pluralist, I am blessed to have performed numerous weddings for couples in their own religious traditions like the Hindu-Christian, Muslim-Jain, Jewish-Christian, Muslim-Hindu and other combinations. We can highlight the beautiful wisdom of each faith as a part of the sermon to bring a sense of completeness to their wedding.
Texas Faith: In love and marriage, do different faiths really matter in America?
By Rudolph Bush
rbush@dallasnews.com
10:47 am on June 10, 2014 | Permalink
Recently, I attended the beautiful wedding of two friends, one from a Jewish family and one from a Christian family. The ceremony largely followed the Jewish tradition with occasional mention of the bride’s Christian upbringing.
I began to wonder, witnessing this blending of two people into one couple bound under God, what place separate faiths really serve in our society. If we are honest, there is no justifying the fundamental difference in belief between Christians and Jews or the other major faiths. But in cases like these, it is our cultural homogeneity that is more important than the tenets of our faith.
Given that, what does faith really mean in circumstances like these? Is faith or religion simply ceremonial? Or are we overcoming divisions in the name of something greater – that is – love?
Read our panelists’ responses below.
MIKE GHOUSE, President, Foundation for Pluralism and speaker on interfaith matters, Dallas
Religions don’t marry, but people do, and what brings them together in the first place is a shared interest, evolved out of living their daily life at work, school, gym, bars, conferences and even the place of worship, indeed, that is what connects them.
These couples must be admired by one and all. In an increasingly egocentric world, when people have difficulty in getting along, they are setting a new standard of respecting the otherness of others (defined as Pluralism).
It is disappointing to many couples, that their clergy or the parents insist on the other person to convert to their faith tradition, some do, and some fake it and some are not even comfortable with the idea.
When a couple is deeply committed to marry, they go ahead and get married anyway without the ceremony due to religious restrictions, but they sorely miss out on the integral part of their tradition they grew up with; a religious cultural wedding. There is good news for such couples now; an interfaith wedding.
As a Pluralist, I am blessed to have performed numerous weddings for couples in their own religious traditions like the Hindu-Christian, Muslim-Jain, Jewish-Christian, Muslim-Hindu and other combinations. We can highlight the beautiful wisdom of each faith as a part of the sermon to bring a sense of completeness to their wedding.
There is a cautionary side of the interfaith marriage, as Naomi Schaefer Riley reports in her book, How Interfaith Marriage is Transforming America, “The growing number of interfaith couples don’t know what they’re getting into. Interfaith couples tend to marry without thinking through the practical implications of their religious differences. They assume that because they are decent and tolerant people … they will not encounter difficulties being married to someone of another faith.” She insists, “But faith is a tricky thing and it sneaks up on people,” especially at significant moments when the pull of old loyalties supposedly outgrown reasserts itself. “The death of a loved one, the birth of a child, the loss of a job, a move to a new city — all of these things can give people a sense of religious longing, a desire to return to the faith of their childhood.”
One must be fully secure in himself or herself to learn to accept each other’s uniqueness, then conflicts fade and solutions emerge.
To read the other panelists, go to Dallas Morning news at
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/2014/06/texas-faith-in-love-and-marriage-do-different-faiths-really-matter-in-america.html/#more-40530...............................................................................................................................
Mike Ghouse is a speaker, thinker and a writer on pluralism, politics, peace, Islam, Israel, India, interfaith, and cohesion at work place. He is committed to building a Cohesive America and offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day at www.TheGhousediary.com. He believes in Standing up for others and a book with the same title is coming up. Mike has a strong presence on national and local TV, Radio and Print Media. He is a frequent guest on Sean Hannity show on Fox TV, and a commentator on national radio networks, he contributes weekly to the Texas Faith Column at Dallas Morning News; fortnightly at Huffington post; and several other periodicals across the world. His personal site www.MikeGhouse.net indexes all his work through many links.
Friday, June 6, 2014
Shashi Tharoor and Mike Ghouse on Narendra Modi at Huffington Post
Is there an Indian who does not want to hear the following
statements from his national leader?
“125 Crore (1.25 Billion) Indians are my family” – “Sab Ka Sath sab Ka
Vikas: everyone together, prosperity for all” - “I will not fall into the trap
of looking at Muslim or Christian colors, but see everyone as my fellow Indian”
- “Whether you voted for me or not, I am your Prime Minister” – “No one needs
to fear the other” – Let’s build toilets before we build temples” and many such
positive upbeat statements from Mr. Narendra Modi.
The accusations leveled against me and Tharoor is that we have changed, we did not!
It is actually Modi ……….. Continued at Huffington Post - to be posted before Monday at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/
References:
Links provided after each bullet and additional links, where you can link this as article.
"125 Crore [1.25 billion] Indians are my family."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/news/Full-text-of-Narendra-Modis-speech-in-Central-Hall-of-Parliament/articleshow/35420762.cms
"Sab Ka Sath sab Ka Vikas: Everyone together, prosperity for all."
http://www.narendramodi.in/sabka-saath-sabka-vikas-a-synopsis-of-11-years-of-shri-narendra-modi-in-gujarat-as-the-cm/
"I will not fall into the trap of looking at Muslim or Christian colors, but see everyone as my fellow Indian."
http://www.ndtv.com/elections/article/election-2014/in-message-to-muslims-narendra-modi-says-will-reach-out-to-all-512357
"Whether you voted for me or not, I am your prime minister."
https://news.yahoo.com/modi-condemns-anti-muslim-remarks-colleagues-defiant-112857867--business.html
"No one needs to fear the other."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/17/world/asia/india-muslims-modi.html?_r=0
"Let's build toilets before we build temples."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Build-toilets-first-and-temples-later-Narendra-Modi-says/articleshow/23422631.cms
Gandhi Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PQlAJgf8Tc#t=522
Mike Ghouse is Public Speaker, thinker and an author commited to building cohesive societies, and offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day. Everything about him is at MikeGhouse.net and many links to media, websites and blogs.
When Tharoor and I heard the above statements in a variety
of expressions, we understood its depth and praised it. Even if he did not mean
it, let the man define himself and live up to it. He has a reputation for
discipline and in less than ten days, he has straightened the Parliamentary
offices – if they know Modi is making the rounds, they clean up the offices and
get their acts together. After all, Modi has quoted Mahatma Gandhi “we are the
trustees of people” and we have to live up to it.
The accusations leveled against me and Tharoor is that we have changed, we did not!
It is actually Modi ……….. Continued at Huffington Post - to be posted before Monday at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-ghouse/
References:
Links provided after each bullet and additional links, where you can link this as article.
"125 Crore [1.25 billion] Indians are my family."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/news/Full-text-of-Narendra-Modis-speech-in-Central-Hall-of-Parliament/articleshow/35420762.cms
"Sab Ka Sath sab Ka Vikas: Everyone together, prosperity for all."
http://www.narendramodi.in/sabka-saath-sabka-vikas-a-synopsis-of-11-years-of-shri-narendra-modi-in-gujarat-as-the-cm/
"I will not fall into the trap of looking at Muslim or Christian colors, but see everyone as my fellow Indian."
http://www.ndtv.com/elections/article/election-2014/in-message-to-muslims-narendra-modi-says-will-reach-out-to-all-512357
"Whether you voted for me or not, I am your prime minister."
https://news.yahoo.com/modi-condemns-anti-muslim-remarks-colleagues-defiant-112857867--business.html
"No one needs to fear the other."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/17/world/asia/india-muslims-modi.html?_r=0
"Let's build toilets before we build temples."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Build-toilets-first-and-temples-later-Narendra-Modi-says/articleshow/23422631.cms
Gandhi Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PQlAJgf8Tc#t=522
Mike Ghouse is Public Speaker, thinker and an author commited to building cohesive societies, and offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day. Everything about him is at MikeGhouse.net and many links to media, websites and blogs.
Tuesday, June 3, 2014
Why Is It So Hard To Convert to Judaism?
RELIGIOUS CONVERSIONS AND PLURALISM
URL - http://foundationforpluralism.blogspot.com/2014/06/why-is-it-so-hard-to-convert-to-judaism.html
I am much closer to a reformed Jew than the orthodox. No, I am not Jewish, I am a Muslim. But on the issue of conversion I am in tune with the Orthodox Jews - I have chased many people away seeking to convert to Islam, I asked them to spend that time in learning about their own faith, something they are familiar with and at times have shared the wisdom of their religion.
Being an Atheist for half of my life, I chose Islam, not because it is superior, but because I was familiar with it and it suited my belief in pluralism. If not, any faith would have been a good vehicle for social living in harmony. By the way Judaism, Islam and Hinduism are closer to Atheism - God is not a being or a thing in these faiths and you cannot give an acceptable image either. While Hinduism sees it in many forms, Islam and Judaism null it out.
Anyone who boasts that his religion is superior, better, oldest, wisest, scientific, logical etc, has not really understood his or her religion. Religion is about humility that builds bridges, mitigates conflicts and nurtures goodwill. To claim any hint of superiority is killing the essence of religion- arrogance is the mother of all conflicts and religion is about peace and not conflicts. Personally one should have the freedom to eat, drink, wear or believe whatever one wants, however, I don't see the need for conversion, there is nothing wrong with the religion you believe in, it works for you, its like your mother. But if you want change, you should go for whatever religion suits you without any guilt or restrictions.
This is my response to an article, "Why Is It So Hard To Convert to Judaism?"
If you look to religion from Mr. Spock's perspective, you see religion as an instrument to bring "togetherness" within an individual and with what surrounds him or her - life and matter. All religions serve the same purpose.
None of the Masters wanted to create a group to be against the other, all they were interested was in creating societies where no individual had to live in fear of the other. They wanted everyone to subscribe to the idea of social harmony and respecting life of the other as their own.
Every one of them from Zoroaster, Moses, Confucius, Krishna, Buddha, Mahavira, Jesus, Muhammad, Nanak, Bahaullah, umpteen Shamans in native traditions to the peace makers like Gandhi, MLK and others wanted to build cohesive societies. And NONE of them wanted any one to convert against something, but rather to be the inclusive individual.
Very few of us have seriously questioned the need to convert, or even questioned the veracity of the claims that Jesus or Muhammad wanted people to convert - convert to a good human or specific political group that is opposed to others? In another decade, more of us will be questioning, and Religion would become a beautiful choice for personal consumption rather than political instrument to control others.
As Cosgrove said, "First Hillel converts, and then Hillel teaches. First you join and then, once you are a vested member, you figure out what it is all about." Indeed, Muslims have made conversion easy - just say that you believe in one God and Muhammad (pbuh) is his prophet. Then comes learning about Islam and living a life of Islam. Most people get their religion rights, a few don't, and make a mess for others.
What amazes me with all religions is - they have forced religion into outwardly appearances and names. That is the first thing a convert is looking for; how do I look Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Christian or whatever. I wish we all redefine us in terms of character reflection rather than caps, clothes, beards and wears.
We have reduced religion into "appearance" rather than imbuing its essence that is to make you a contented happy being.
When I go into a place of worship, and I have been to every place, what I see is the devotion of the individual, and not the physical movements, it is the humility that permeates him or her and not the show off. It is the same devotion expressed in so many different ways.
Lastly, I raised my kids with an open mind - they have been to most places of worship. I did not want them to be bigots when they grow up.
At each place of worship, my little girl would quietly nudge and ask, "Dad, what are they saying?" - for a six year old, I learned to simplify it, "Sweetie, they are appreciating God for providing food, clothing, home and a world to live, and thanking him for good parents, family and friends. " In all honesty, you cannot translate anything other than this, no matter where you go.
One day, we were in the midst of Bhajans (chanting hymns) sitting crossed legged on the floor in the Hindu temple. When she nudged me, I knew what was coming … that beautiful face was admiringly looking into my eyes… and like a cassette player plays when the button is pushed, I said. "Sweetie, they are…."
Then what came was a big surprise of my life. She jumped up, raised her hands, and said, "Gee Dad, it is so cool that God can be worshiped in so many ways."
Mike Ghouse is Public Speaker, thinker and an author committed to building cohesive societies, and offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day. Everything about him is at MikeGhouse.net and many links to media, websites and blogs.
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Why Is It So Hard To Convert to Judaism?
Editorial
Courtesy: The Jewish Daily Forward
Published June 02, 2014, issue of June 06, 2014.
In February 2013, Rabbi Elliot Cosgrove of Park Avenue Synagogue, as fancy and important a place as its name suggests, floated an intriguing idea. In a sermon to his congregation on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, Cosgrove urged the Conservative movement, his movement, to become much, much more welcoming to anyone interested in converting to Judaism.
He cited the famous talmudic story of the would-be-convert who approaches two dueling rabbis, Shammai and Hillel, asking to learn the entire Torah on one foot. Shammai dismissively pushes the man away. Hillel, instead, converts him immediately, teaching him that the Torah’s central message is: “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. The rest is commentary. Go and learn.”
“The order of events is often missed, but it is instructive for us today,” Cosgrove said in his sermon. “First Hillel converts, and then Hillel teaches. First you join and then, once you are a vested member, you figure out what it is all about.”
Related
Don't Believe in God? Come Aboard!
Finding God in the Other
Man in Search of God
Cosgrove’s sermon created a stir, and he repeated his proposal before various meetings and conventions during the past year. He’s not the only one to suggest that conversion become simpler, quicker, cheaper and way more welcoming. There’s even a discussion about this in the latest edition of the Conservative movement’s official magazine.
Enough talk. Time to do something.
We who care about sustaining the future of the modern Jewish family, who want to confront the tide of assimilation and disengagement with positive, affirming Jewish values, or who simply like being Jews and want to pass that along, need to radically rethink conversion. Instead of playing hard-to-get, or acting as if Jews are part of a club with admission standards higher than Harvard Law School, we need to open our arms, drop our reluctance, lower the barriers and not just welcome converts to join our synagogues. We need to encourage people to become Jews, in their way, in their time — especially when marriage and child rearing are involved.
“Some people don’t talk about money or sex. Jews don’t talk about conversion,” notes Rabbi Joy Levitt, executive director of the JCC in Manhattan, who has thought a lot about this issue. “I don’t understand why. I think it’s a wonderful thing. I have a lot of confidence in the tradition’s ability to work its magic on people.”
Think this isn’t a problem? Read the latest issue of Voices of Conservative/Masorti Judaism, which to its credit published a couple of pointed articles criticizing the status quo. “I think it’s hard for anyone who grew up Jewish to understand how intimidating — how downright scary — it can be for a non-Jew to set foot in a synagogue or make an appointment with a rabbi to discuss conversion,” writes Darcy R. Fryer, a historian and teacher who converted in 1998.
The title of her story, “Too Long a Wait,” suggests one of the barriers placed before the convert. Fryer studied for 14 months; many rabbis require at least a year, ostensibly to experience the annual Jewish calendar. There’s the cost — hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, in conversion classes. There’s the tradition of turning away a would-be convert three times, just to test her resolve and dedication.
Why stretch out what is essentially an emotional decision? As Fryer writes, “most of my figuring out how to live as a Jew came after I converted, just as couples figure out how to be married after they get married and parents how to parent after they have children.”
Even the words we use stigmatize. We refer to a person as a “convert” rather than a “Jew.” We give this new Jew a Hebrew name affixed with “son of Abraham and Sarah” rather than with his (presumably) non-Jewish parents. When that name is read aloud in synagogue, he is labeled. And we wonder why the process can be alienating.
As Levitt says, “We should use convert as a verb, not a noun.”
There is, let’s be honest, an underlying hypocrisy here: We ask more of the convert than we do of the Jew by birth. That’s especially true as the number of Jews “of no religion” increases and the intermarriage rate soars for the non-Orthodox, two key findings of last year’s Pew Research Center’s survey of American Jews. We don’t ask Jews by birth to study for a proscribed time, to pass a test, to prove themselves. All you need is one Jewish parent and little else in your life to qualify for a free trip to Israel with Taglit-Birthright.
For centuries, there was good reason for Jews to hold tight to the clan and avoid even the appearance of proselytizing, lest they antagonize their neighbors and the powers-that-be. But the situation is reversed now. Our reticence to promote ourselves and our reluctance to welcome newcomers is the exact opposite of what’s expected in the digital age.
Jonah Peretti, founder and CEO of Buzzfeed, one of the nation’s fastest-growing media companies, spoke to a media summit last year and used a comparison of Mormons and Jews to make a point about the nature of social interaction that is relevant here.
“There was one Mormon for every 10 Jews [in 1950]. Now there are more Mormons in the world than Jews. Why is that?” Peretti asked. It’s not because Mormonism is a higher-quality religion than Judaism. “The real reason is that Mormons actually focus half of their time on practicing their religion and the other half of their time on how to spread their religion,” he said. “The idea matters but so does the mechanism for spreading the idea.”
We don’t suggest that Jews don Mitt Romney-like suits and skinny ties and go around spreading the Gospel for a year or two. But somehow we have to harness the passion, dedication, indeed the confidence that Mormons exude and overcome our reluctance to share our faith and culture with anyone the least bit interested in joining us.
“Everybody wants their lives to be more meaningful,” Levitt observes. “We have what to offer here.”
This is a campaign tailor-made for the Conservative movement. Orthodoxy clings to the traditional notion that years of study and observance must precede conversion. (And that’s in America. The Israeli rabbinate sets the bar impossibly, cruelly high.) The Reform movement has little incentive, given its embrace of patrilineal descent and the increasing willingness of its rabbis to perform interfaith marriages.
But Conservative Jews could be to the modern world what Chabad-Lubavitch is to the traditional: a center of exuberant outreach. Such an embrace could also help Conservatives with the central paradox of their attitudes toward intermarriage: Conservative rabbis may not perform, or even attend, an interfaith marriage, and yet expect that the new couple will somehow gravitate toward their synagogues. This may be a principled stand, but it’s not a sustainable one.
Ironically, in a series of videos released by the Jewish Theological Seminary for the upcoming holiday of Shavuot, several Conservative scholars cited talmudic teachings emphasizing the need for straightforward and undemanding conversion.
We should have no fear of diluting Judaism by making conversion easier. It is a radical transformation of identity, but so is being born into a Jewish family, except the new Jew has made a choice, one we should hasten and embrace.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/199214/why-is-it-so-hard-to-convert-to-judaism/#ixzz33bwp2Vri
URL - http://foundationforpluralism.blogspot.com/2014/06/why-is-it-so-hard-to-convert-to-judaism.html
I am much closer to a reformed Jew than the orthodox. No, I am not Jewish, I am a Muslim. But on the issue of conversion I am in tune with the Orthodox Jews - I have chased many people away seeking to convert to Islam, I asked them to spend that time in learning about their own faith, something they are familiar with and at times have shared the wisdom of their religion.
Being an Atheist for half of my life, I chose Islam, not because it is superior, but because I was familiar with it and it suited my belief in pluralism. If not, any faith would have been a good vehicle for social living in harmony. By the way Judaism, Islam and Hinduism are closer to Atheism - God is not a being or a thing in these faiths and you cannot give an acceptable image either. While Hinduism sees it in many forms, Islam and Judaism null it out.
Anyone who boasts that his religion is superior, better, oldest, wisest, scientific, logical etc, has not really understood his or her religion. Religion is about humility that builds bridges, mitigates conflicts and nurtures goodwill. To claim any hint of superiority is killing the essence of religion- arrogance is the mother of all conflicts and religion is about peace and not conflicts. Personally one should have the freedom to eat, drink, wear or believe whatever one wants, however, I don't see the need for conversion, there is nothing wrong with the religion you believe in, it works for you, its like your mother. But if you want change, you should go for whatever religion suits you without any guilt or restrictions.
This is my response to an article, "Why Is It So Hard To Convert to Judaism?"
If you look to religion from Mr. Spock's perspective, you see religion as an instrument to bring "togetherness" within an individual and with what surrounds him or her - life and matter. All religions serve the same purpose.
None of the Masters wanted to create a group to be against the other, all they were interested was in creating societies where no individual had to live in fear of the other. They wanted everyone to subscribe to the idea of social harmony and respecting life of the other as their own.
Every one of them from Zoroaster, Moses, Confucius, Krishna, Buddha, Mahavira, Jesus, Muhammad, Nanak, Bahaullah, umpteen Shamans in native traditions to the peace makers like Gandhi, MLK and others wanted to build cohesive societies. And NONE of them wanted any one to convert against something, but rather to be the inclusive individual.
Very few of us have seriously questioned the need to convert, or even questioned the veracity of the claims that Jesus or Muhammad wanted people to convert - convert to a good human or specific political group that is opposed to others? In another decade, more of us will be questioning, and Religion would become a beautiful choice for personal consumption rather than political instrument to control others.
As Cosgrove said, "First Hillel converts, and then Hillel teaches. First you join and then, once you are a vested member, you figure out what it is all about." Indeed, Muslims have made conversion easy - just say that you believe in one God and Muhammad (pbuh) is his prophet. Then comes learning about Islam and living a life of Islam. Most people get their religion rights, a few don't, and make a mess for others.
What amazes me with all religions is - they have forced religion into outwardly appearances and names. That is the first thing a convert is looking for; how do I look Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Christian or whatever. I wish we all redefine us in terms of character reflection rather than caps, clothes, beards and wears.
We have reduced religion into "appearance" rather than imbuing its essence that is to make you a contented happy being.
When I go into a place of worship, and I have been to every place, what I see is the devotion of the individual, and not the physical movements, it is the humility that permeates him or her and not the show off. It is the same devotion expressed in so many different ways.
Lastly, I raised my kids with an open mind - they have been to most places of worship. I did not want them to be bigots when they grow up.
At each place of worship, my little girl would quietly nudge and ask, "Dad, what are they saying?" - for a six year old, I learned to simplify it, "Sweetie, they are appreciating God for providing food, clothing, home and a world to live, and thanking him for good parents, family and friends. " In all honesty, you cannot translate anything other than this, no matter where you go.
One day, we were in the midst of Bhajans (chanting hymns) sitting crossed legged on the floor in the Hindu temple. When she nudged me, I knew what was coming … that beautiful face was admiringly looking into my eyes… and like a cassette player plays when the button is pushed, I said. "Sweetie, they are…."
Then what came was a big surprise of my life. She jumped up, raised her hands, and said, "Gee Dad, it is so cool that God can be worshiped in so many ways."
Mike Ghouse is Public Speaker, thinker and an author committed to building cohesive societies, and offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day. Everything about him is at MikeGhouse.net and many links to media, websites and blogs.
# # #
Why Is It So Hard To Convert to Judaism?
Editorial
Courtesy: The Jewish Daily Forward
Published June 02, 2014, issue of June 06, 2014.
In February 2013, Rabbi Elliot Cosgrove of Park Avenue Synagogue, as fancy and important a place as its name suggests, floated an intriguing idea. In a sermon to his congregation on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, Cosgrove urged the Conservative movement, his movement, to become much, much more welcoming to anyone interested in converting to Judaism.
He cited the famous talmudic story of the would-be-convert who approaches two dueling rabbis, Shammai and Hillel, asking to learn the entire Torah on one foot. Shammai dismissively pushes the man away. Hillel, instead, converts him immediately, teaching him that the Torah’s central message is: “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. The rest is commentary. Go and learn.”
“The order of events is often missed, but it is instructive for us today,” Cosgrove said in his sermon. “First Hillel converts, and then Hillel teaches. First you join and then, once you are a vested member, you figure out what it is all about.”
Related
Don't Believe in God? Come Aboard!
Finding God in the Other
Man in Search of God
Cosgrove’s sermon created a stir, and he repeated his proposal before various meetings and conventions during the past year. He’s not the only one to suggest that conversion become simpler, quicker, cheaper and way more welcoming. There’s even a discussion about this in the latest edition of the Conservative movement’s official magazine.
Enough talk. Time to do something.
We who care about sustaining the future of the modern Jewish family, who want to confront the tide of assimilation and disengagement with positive, affirming Jewish values, or who simply like being Jews and want to pass that along, need to radically rethink conversion. Instead of playing hard-to-get, or acting as if Jews are part of a club with admission standards higher than Harvard Law School, we need to open our arms, drop our reluctance, lower the barriers and not just welcome converts to join our synagogues. We need to encourage people to become Jews, in their way, in their time — especially when marriage and child rearing are involved.
“Some people don’t talk about money or sex. Jews don’t talk about conversion,” notes Rabbi Joy Levitt, executive director of the JCC in Manhattan, who has thought a lot about this issue. “I don’t understand why. I think it’s a wonderful thing. I have a lot of confidence in the tradition’s ability to work its magic on people.”
Think this isn’t a problem? Read the latest issue of Voices of Conservative/Masorti Judaism, which to its credit published a couple of pointed articles criticizing the status quo. “I think it’s hard for anyone who grew up Jewish to understand how intimidating — how downright scary — it can be for a non-Jew to set foot in a synagogue or make an appointment with a rabbi to discuss conversion,” writes Darcy R. Fryer, a historian and teacher who converted in 1998.
The title of her story, “Too Long a Wait,” suggests one of the barriers placed before the convert. Fryer studied for 14 months; many rabbis require at least a year, ostensibly to experience the annual Jewish calendar. There’s the cost — hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, in conversion classes. There’s the tradition of turning away a would-be convert three times, just to test her resolve and dedication.
Why stretch out what is essentially an emotional decision? As Fryer writes, “most of my figuring out how to live as a Jew came after I converted, just as couples figure out how to be married after they get married and parents how to parent after they have children.”
Even the words we use stigmatize. We refer to a person as a “convert” rather than a “Jew.” We give this new Jew a Hebrew name affixed with “son of Abraham and Sarah” rather than with his (presumably) non-Jewish parents. When that name is read aloud in synagogue, he is labeled. And we wonder why the process can be alienating.
As Levitt says, “We should use convert as a verb, not a noun.”
There is, let’s be honest, an underlying hypocrisy here: We ask more of the convert than we do of the Jew by birth. That’s especially true as the number of Jews “of no religion” increases and the intermarriage rate soars for the non-Orthodox, two key findings of last year’s Pew Research Center’s survey of American Jews. We don’t ask Jews by birth to study for a proscribed time, to pass a test, to prove themselves. All you need is one Jewish parent and little else in your life to qualify for a free trip to Israel with Taglit-Birthright.
For centuries, there was good reason for Jews to hold tight to the clan and avoid even the appearance of proselytizing, lest they antagonize their neighbors and the powers-that-be. But the situation is reversed now. Our reticence to promote ourselves and our reluctance to welcome newcomers is the exact opposite of what’s expected in the digital age.
Jonah Peretti, founder and CEO of Buzzfeed, one of the nation’s fastest-growing media companies, spoke to a media summit last year and used a comparison of Mormons and Jews to make a point about the nature of social interaction that is relevant here.
“There was one Mormon for every 10 Jews [in 1950]. Now there are more Mormons in the world than Jews. Why is that?” Peretti asked. It’s not because Mormonism is a higher-quality religion than Judaism. “The real reason is that Mormons actually focus half of their time on practicing their religion and the other half of their time on how to spread their religion,” he said. “The idea matters but so does the mechanism for spreading the idea.”
We don’t suggest that Jews don Mitt Romney-like suits and skinny ties and go around spreading the Gospel for a year or two. But somehow we have to harness the passion, dedication, indeed the confidence that Mormons exude and overcome our reluctance to share our faith and culture with anyone the least bit interested in joining us.
“Everybody wants their lives to be more meaningful,” Levitt observes. “We have what to offer here.”
This is a campaign tailor-made for the Conservative movement. Orthodoxy clings to the traditional notion that years of study and observance must precede conversion. (And that’s in America. The Israeli rabbinate sets the bar impossibly, cruelly high.) The Reform movement has little incentive, given its embrace of patrilineal descent and the increasing willingness of its rabbis to perform interfaith marriages.
But Conservative Jews could be to the modern world what Chabad-Lubavitch is to the traditional: a center of exuberant outreach. Such an embrace could also help Conservatives with the central paradox of their attitudes toward intermarriage: Conservative rabbis may not perform, or even attend, an interfaith marriage, and yet expect that the new couple will somehow gravitate toward their synagogues. This may be a principled stand, but it’s not a sustainable one.
Ironically, in a series of videos released by the Jewish Theological Seminary for the upcoming holiday of Shavuot, several Conservative scholars cited talmudic teachings emphasizing the need for straightforward and undemanding conversion.
We should have no fear of diluting Judaism by making conversion easier. It is a radical transformation of identity, but so is being born into a Jewish family, except the new Jew has made a choice, one we should hasten and embrace.
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/199214/why-is-it-so-hard-to-convert-to-judaism/#ixzz33bwp2Vri
Monday, June 2, 2014
Anti-Muslim and Anti-Christian Frisco meeting by Global Hindu Heritage Forum in Dallas, Texas
The Title should have been opposite of Anti-Muslim or Anti-Christian, as it turned out to be not-anti-at all. But since it is a continum of the letter, we kept the same title.
http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2014/06/anti-muslim-and-anti-christian-friscy.html
An Alarming letter was posted by Global Hindu Heritage Foundation and held an anti-Muslim and anti-Christian rally in Frisco, Texas - so I went to the meeting. The agenda was not the same as it was in the letter.
I think Indians in general and Muslims in particular need to hear Madhu Kishwar, she will be in town through Thursday in New York. She threw me off with her perspectives, with a grain of salt and skepticism, I did hear her full one hour talk. A critique turned defender of Modi. A few notes for your to ponder upon.
An alarming letter was posted by the Global Hindu Heritage Foundation at our forum, DallasIndians@yahoogroups.com . The letter was outright discriminatory, tearing India apart kind of letter, and was sent to India's newly elected Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi. The letter was insane, and it was hard to believe that Indians living in America want to discriminate and deny equal rights to Christians and Muslims in India. I just could not fathom that most of the men on the list were Medical Doctors and PhD's. The letter and my response to the letter is at: http://foundationforpluralism.blogspot.com/2014/06/tearing-india-apart-hatefilled-mindset.html
http://theghousediary.blogspot.com/2014/06/anti-muslim-and-anti-christian-friscy.html
An Alarming letter was posted by Global Hindu Heritage Foundation and held an anti-Muslim and anti-Christian rally in Frisco, Texas - so I went to the meeting. The agenda was not the same as it was in the letter.
I think Indians in general and Muslims in particular need to hear Madhu Kishwar, she will be in town through Thursday in New York. She threw me off with her perspectives, with a grain of salt and skepticism, I did hear her full one hour talk. A critique turned defender of Modi. A few notes for your to ponder upon.
An alarming letter was posted by the Global Hindu Heritage Foundation at our forum, DallasIndians@yahoogroups.com . The letter was outright discriminatory, tearing India apart kind of letter, and was sent to India's newly elected Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi. The letter was insane, and it was hard to believe that Indians living in America want to discriminate and deny equal rights to Christians and Muslims in India. I just could not fathom that most of the men on the list were Medical Doctors and PhD's. The letter and my response to the letter is at: http://foundationforpluralism.blogspot.com/2014/06/tearing-india-apart-hatefilled-mindset.html
The occasion was the 7th Annual Hindu Unity Day in Frisco. Unity of each community and Unity of communities must be appreciated. By the way, the first Hindu Unity day in Dallas was organized by the Foundation for Pluralism on June 17, 2005 in Dallas.
I wanted to attend the event to understand what goes on.
A few years ago they had organized a summit on Islam – and I had asked them if
there was any Muslim on the panel, there was none, and they ignored my request
and perhaps passed judgments on Muslims without the presence of Muslims. It is
always good to be engaged and hear each other’s point of view; when it is about
the each other.
The speakers were Madhu Kishwar and Dr. Graham Schweig. The first session before lunch included several Dallas based organization heads talking about their efforts in campaigning for Mr. Narendra Modi, and I missed the first speaker Kalyan Viswanathan, who might have delivered a negative speech. I did not hear Dr. Schweig’s speech as I had to leave.
Madhu Kishwar delivered a full hour’s speech “Modi and the Media – setting the record Straight” – it was a pleasant surprise, there was no hatred spewing out for Muslims or Christians. Usually fund raisers get people riled up against something or someone to get people to open their check books, and a lot of people fall prey for that. I have been to the fund raisers of right wing Jews, Christians and Muslims as well, and have spoken up against their rhetoric.
Madhu Kishwar was rather inclusive in her approach.
Whenever she mentioned a positive statement about inclusion of Muslims – people clapped out of their hearts. I have always believed that humans instantaneously react with goodness, it’s only when they deliberate they get corrupted. Indeed, in my response to GHHF letter I had mentioned that a majority of the signatories on that letter probably did not even read the contents and had simply signed it, for a few to carry forward. It is hard for me to believe that so many people in a group could subscribe to such vitriolic pronouncements, and most of them would not have signed it, had they read it.
It was refreshing to hear her. She threw in a lot of information that I need to verify and absorb. It is always good to verify before you believe, when the information is different than what we have heard it all along. I ran into her again at the Sonu Nigam Show, and she assured me that her reports are legitimate and said the Nanavati Report was accurate.
The speakers were Madhu Kishwar and Dr. Graham Schweig. The first session before lunch included several Dallas based organization heads talking about their efforts in campaigning for Mr. Narendra Modi, and I missed the first speaker Kalyan Viswanathan, who might have delivered a negative speech. I did not hear Dr. Schweig’s speech as I had to leave.
Madhu Kishwar delivered a full hour’s speech “Modi and the Media – setting the record Straight” – it was a pleasant surprise, there was no hatred spewing out for Muslims or Christians. Usually fund raisers get people riled up against something or someone to get people to open their check books, and a lot of people fall prey for that. I have been to the fund raisers of right wing Jews, Christians and Muslims as well, and have spoken up against their rhetoric.
Madhu Kishwar was rather inclusive in her approach.
Whenever she mentioned a positive statement about inclusion of Muslims – people clapped out of their hearts. I have always believed that humans instantaneously react with goodness, it’s only when they deliberate they get corrupted. Indeed, in my response to GHHF letter I had mentioned that a majority of the signatories on that letter probably did not even read the contents and had simply signed it, for a few to carry forward. It is hard for me to believe that so many people in a group could subscribe to such vitriolic pronouncements, and most of them would not have signed it, had they read it.
It was refreshing to hear her. She threw in a lot of information that I need to verify and absorb. It is always good to verify before you believe, when the information is different than what we have heard it all along. I ran into her again at the Sonu Nigam Show, and she assured me that her reports are legitimate and said the Nanavati Report was accurate.
Some of her points:
She was bashing the media for not agreeing to the clean chit by SIT - to me democracy exists because of the press, good, bad and ugly. There are some great statements by Jefferson and others on the topic.
Do you realize, both the left and right have exactly same complaint? That the media in on other's side.
She thinks - BJP was not convinced that Modi was not involved in the riots as accused, that hesitancy was reflected in the talks and acts of BJP.
Per her Modi has done a lot of good things, but never flaunted it.
She was bashing the media for not agreeing to the clean chit by SIT - to me democracy exists because of the press, good, bad and ugly. There are some great statements by Jefferson and others on the topic.
Do you realize, both the left and right have exactly same complaint? That the media in on other's side.
She thinks - BJP was not convinced that Modi was not involved in the riots as accused, that hesitancy was reflected in the talks and acts of BJP.
Per her Modi has done a lot of good things, but never flaunted it.
50% of Muslims Voted for Modi in Gujarat on February 24th 2002 results.
The hell broke loose within a couple of days – she asks, why would Modi initiate riots when Muslims voted him so overwhelmingly?
28 Muslim Organizations headed by Kader Bhai in Rajkot had asked for a cemetery plot which Modi had granted, and Modi never claimed or flaunted about it.
He is not divisive as claimed. Sab Ka Sath; sab ka Vikas has been his slogan from the very beginning.
She claimed Army was called in immediately. And deployed on 3/1 – George Fernandez, the then Defense Minister apparently toured the riot torn place on 2/28 while the riots were still going on.
I bought the book - but wont't be able to read it, as I have to wrap up my book without any excuse.
Because of the differences or dominance of Hindus, most of the Muslims, Christians, Dalits and Sikhs have stayed away from being a part of India based organizations.
All I ask Indian Muslims, Christians, Sikhs and others to be involved with Indian organizations, we have to be a part of the society, and all others have to be a part of our lives. Otherwise, all of us would remain in shells not knowing what goes on, we will be harming ourselves and our nation by not being a part of each other. We have to live together, at least our relatives have to live together in India and we need to care for all.
Mike Ghouse is an Indian American Public Speaker, thinker and a writer committed to building cohesive societies and offers pluralistic solutions on issues of the day.
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